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in the debate, romney repeated that. i was a little disappointed paul ryan didn't repeat that point because, you're right, there's about a trillion worth of loopholes on a yearly basis. >> both of you guys are forgetting something important. >> caps are very important. >> i agree. listen, david and larry, mitt romney has taken some of those looch hol loopholes off the table. >> i didn't hear him say that. >> the vice president said that tonight and ryan did not correct it. >> investment income, capital gains and dividends. >> i don't regard those as loopholes and neither does mitt. >> they're in your 1 trillion. >> ask david. are they not in this 1 trillion? >> they are in the 1 trillion. >> if we go back -- >> those aren't loopholes. >> you may not think so but counting them. >> if we had a decent tax code we count tax saving and investment at all, tax consumption and income. >> let's talk about what the top five are. the top five are the fact individuals don't pay income taxes on employer provided health care. it's the
in the debate, romney repeated that. i was a little disappointed paul ryan didn't repeat that point because, you're right, there's about a trillion worth of loopholes on a yearly basis. >> both of you guys are forgetting something important. >> caps are very important. >> i agree. listen, david and larry, mitt romney has taken some of those looch hol loopholes off the table. >> i didn't hear him say that. >> the vice president said that tonight and ryan did not...
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. >> i don't see why you can't do both at the same time. i don't see why you can't have tax simplification and budget restraint and entitlement reform. i think mitt romney is a grand design deal maker, david stockman. i don't think obama can do it. i think that's what romney did for a living and i think that's the point you're missing about mitt. >> well, larry, we've had tax cuts, tax credits, tax stimulus, every kind of imaginable tax effort to boost the economy for the last 10 or 20 years. we're collecting 15% of gdp, the lowest since harry truman. the point is, there's no room left for this kind of stuff. we're going to have to actually raise more, even if it harms growth in the short run because you just can't keep borrowing at this rate. push comes to shove, we're at the point where we have to face the music, i think. >> david, want to thank you very much for joining us today. david stockman. >>> up next tonight, a man who really needs no introduction. >> it is cramer time. evening jim. >> hey, guys. other people want to make friends
. >> i don't see why you can't do both at the same time. i don't see why you can't have tax simplification and budget restraint and entitlement reform. i think mitt romney is a grand design deal maker, david stockman. i don't think obama can do it. i think that's what romney did for a living and i think that's the point you're missing about mitt. >> well, larry, we've had tax cuts, tax credits, tax stimulus, every kind of imaginable tax effort to boost the economy for the last 10 or...
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they're both going to face, i think, very similar realities. as i like to say, the math is inexrabble. >> it isn't the same. the math isn't the same. i believe that if you do the right thing, you broaden the tax base, you take away the loopholes, i think that there is a nonstatic aspect. there's economic growth that can make up a difference, which is at the epicenter of that 5 trillion number. >> not just that, they both have very different attitudes about spending. >> but guys -- >> which they've highlighted. >> i think we're at a point now where we've figured out tax cuts don't pay for themselves. >> i disagree. tax cuts that last one year where you don't know what the next two, three, or four years is going to be. if we had a tax going on for a long time, i think it would be a big time boost to the economy. >> very, very quickly, guys. look, they've only got 30 days after the election. i know the negotiations have already started. what would a compromise look like that would please the markets right now? i know we're not going to please ever
they're both going to face, i think, very similar realities. as i like to say, the math is inexrabble. >> it isn't the same. the math isn't the same. i believe that if you do the right thing, you broaden the tax base, you take away the loopholes, i think that there is a nonstatic aspect. there's economic growth that can make up a difference, which is at the epicenter of that 5 trillion number. >> not just that, they both have very different attitudes about spending. >> but...
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both indices are down today with the market but the president's portfolio is leading this year, it is up more than 10%. mr. romney's portfolio up about 1%. so what kind of stocks are in those particular portfolios? the president's has autos, health care and housing stocks such as tesla, tenet health care and dr horton. mr. romney has tobacco, coal and oil stocks such as philip morris, halliburton and arch coal. >>> it was a story that our wealth editor robert frank -- we called him swanky franky -- brought to you first a couple of days ago here on "power lunch." millionaires and billionaires, the swanky, getting massive tax breaks for moving into a swanky condo building in new york. we said it would cause outrage, and indeed it has. robert is here with new developments. >> just to continue the rhymes, it's made some people cranky! well, city officials are now taking a closer look at those tax breaks that are given to new york's tallest and most glamorous condo tower. the tower is called 157 and at least two billionaires have shelled out more than $90 million for penthouses in that bui
both indices are down today with the market but the president's portfolio is leading this year, it is up more than 10%. mr. romney's portfolio up about 1%. so what kind of stocks are in those particular portfolios? the president's has autos, health care and housing stocks such as tesla, tenet health care and dr horton. mr. romney has tobacco, coal and oil stocks such as philip morris, halliburton and arch coal. >>> it was a story that our wealth editor robert frank -- we called him...
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what i'm asking here and i want you both to weigh in on this, what's president obama's agenda. when i say the case for re-election i'm talking about a future agenda and future strategy. you may not like it, but what is it? that's what i'm trying to define. tom stemberg, you first and now i want governor dean. >> i've been listening to the president now since the campaign began and other than it's a vague idea and tax the rich some which by the way, will begin to cover the tremendous trillion dollar hole we face each year. i haven't heard much of a plan. there have been attacks, but no plan. you may not like ryan's plan, i get that, but he does have a future strategy and this is what he's going to try to do. >> let me ask the question. >> what people are asking president obama is what will you do -- in order to be elected, what will you do in the future? i don't think he's done a good job or any job putting that out there. >> i think it's been very clear. he will continue to attract the deficit. he'll look at the tax reform which i think is very important, if you get any help fr
what i'm asking here and i want you both to weigh in on this, what's president obama's agenda. when i say the case for re-election i'm talking about a future agenda and future strategy. you may not like it, but what is it? that's what i'm trying to define. tom stemberg, you first and now i want governor dean. >> i've been listening to the president now since the campaign began and other than it's a vague idea and tax the rich some which by the way, will begin to cover the tremendous...
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since the debate and romney spent much of the weekend there. paul ryan there today. it is probably a couple-point edge for obama, but it could go either way. >> these things are all sort of within the margins of error and what was a tight race has gotten even tighter. mr. hohman, thank you. >>> the most powerful person right now working to fix that looming fiscal cliff is someone you probably have never heard of. cnbc's eamon javers is live in washington, d.c. with more on this. who is the mystery woman, eamon? >> hi, sue. she's katherine wilde, the head of the partnership for new york city. she is not necessarily a household name, but she he hosting some important meetings up in new york city between business leaders and political leaders. because of her convening power she's been able to bring together an astonishing list of folks. look at some of the political figures that she has brought to her table just over the past two years, including treasury secretary tim geithner, house democratic leader nancy pelosi, senator rob portman, eric canto
since the debate and romney spent much of the weekend there. paul ryan there today. it is probably a couple-point edge for obama, but it could go either way. >> these things are all sort of within the margins of error and what was a tight race has gotten even tighter. mr. hohman, thank you. >>> the most powerful person right now working to fix that looming fiscal cliff is someone you probably have never heard of. cnbc's eamon javers is live in washington, d.c. with more on this....
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i've got to start out by saying i think if you talk to political professionals in both parties they don't see the electoral map that auspicious for romney is that real clear politics map with the states shifted. if you look at the real clear map only with no tossup states, where they push all the states where somebody has an advantage, obama is in a much stronger position, and we saw from our polls today that milt romney is trailing by six points in the state of ohio where he must win. but the test tonight for paul ryan is to try, us a mention, to accelerate the momentum that romney gained last week and try to prevent joe biden from coming out very aggressively and saying, hey, wait a minute. president obama may not have said it, but i'm going to say it tonight. there are contradictions between the romney who was on stage in denver, the romney record. joe biden is an experienced debater. he sometimes makes mistakes verbally. we'll see how he handles that, and paul ryan is young. there's a very large age gap between these two, but he is somebody who is very fluent in policy, as you know. a
i've got to start out by saying i think if you talk to political professionals in both parties they don't see the electoral map that auspicious for romney is that real clear politics map with the states shifted. if you look at the real clear map only with no tossup states, where they push all the states where somebody has an advantage, obama is in a much stronger position, and we saw from our polls today that milt romney is trailing by six points in the state of ohio where he must win. but the...
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both president obama and governor romney have said they would prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. even if that means military action. last week, form er defense secretary bob gates said a strike on iran's facilities would not work and, quote, could prove catastrophic haunting us for generations. can the two of you be absolutely clear and specific to the american people how effective would a military strike be? >> congressman ryan? >> we cannot allow iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability. now, let's take a look at where we've come from. when barack obama was elected, they had enough fissile material, nuclear material, to make one bomb. now they have enough for five. they're racing toward a nuclear weapon. they're four years closer towards a nuclear weapons capability. we've had four different sanctions at the u.n. and iran, three from the bush administration, one here, and the only reason we got it because russia watered it down and prevented the sanctions from hitting the cen brawl bank. congress i've been fighting for these sanctions since 2009. the administration was blocki
both president obama and governor romney have said they would prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. even if that means military action. last week, form er defense secretary bob gates said a strike on iran's facilities would not work and, quote, could prove catastrophic haunting us for generations. can the two of you be absolutely clear and specific to the american people how effective would a military strike be? >> congressman ryan? >> we cannot allow iran to gain a nuclear...
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romney has said now on several occasions, both during the debate several times and just before the debate, he is going to put strict caps -- are you listening, jared -- strict caps on itemized deductions. those caps will range between $17,000 and probably $40,000, $45,000. the more money you make, the lower your cap is going to be. once you apply those strict caps, then the math adds up if you get some decent growth, that is. >> one more thing, larry, the deductions are the greatest benefit at the highest tax rates. so therefore limiting the deductions at the highest rate gives you the greatest base and revenue -- >> all true, art. but here's the thing. he has taken off the table capital gains, dividends, interest deductibility, the mortgage interest deduction -- >> no, he hasn't. he has not. jared, he's said everything is on the table. jared, my friend, when asked this question, besides the specifics of the dollar limit, he has said everything is on the table. come on. that's what he said. >> he can't do that without raising taxes on middle class people. >> yes, you can. >> it's the same
romney has said now on several occasions, both during the debate several times and just before the debate, he is going to put strict caps -- are you listening, jared -- strict caps on itemized deductions. those caps will range between $17,000 and probably $40,000, $45,000. the more money you make, the lower your cap is going to be. once you apply those strict caps, then the math adds up if you get some decent growth, that is. >> one more thing, larry, the deductions are the greatest...
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you look at both of these gentlemen, they've both been in the political cal scescene for time. most of us have already formed an opinion of vice president biden. four years working with president obama. two presidential campaigns and 40 years in washington. i think we have an understanding of who joe biden is and what he stands for. on the other side of the equation, i'm personally excited to see congressman ryan tonight. he's a smart guy. he's in command of details. i am very hopeful that he will be able to carry forth the momentum that the romney campaign got out of the first presidential debate. >> how do you think he should play that? because the lead article in the "washington post" today notes how -- an emphasis in tone governor romney is tracking to the center for obvious reasons as we get closer to the vote. do you think ryan should do the same or double down on his conservative heritage for what that could do to get the vote out on the gop side? >> simon, i think what ryan should actually do is follow the boss' lead and i think that it's gotten the campaign to where th
you look at both of these gentlemen, they've both been in the political cal scescene for time. most of us have already formed an opinion of vice president biden. four years working with president obama. two presidential campaigns and 40 years in washington. i think we have an understanding of who joe biden is and what he stands for. on the other side of the equation, i'm personally excited to see congressman ryan tonight. he's a smart guy. he's in command of details. i am very hopeful that he...
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you wish for both. >> when all of a sudden romney turned around and, anyway. >> that's right. that was because of that. >> yeah. we're going to continue with our what's working series with dan fuss, with the total analyzed return above 10% since the fund launched back in 1991. but first, andrew. andrew, you have the morning headline. >> i do have the morning headlines. let's talk about them. alcoa reporting better than expected earnings in revenue after the close. the company earned 3 cents per share for the third quarter. that compares to expectations o of a break even quarter. among the catalyst, stronger demand for aluminum products from airplane and automobile producers, this did, though, offset weak aluminum prices and china's slumping economy and that has a lot of people concerned. cautioning that the company's noticed a slight slowdown in some regions and end markets namely in china. so it's lowering its global demand forecast. and yum's earnings also beating the street revenues roughly in line. the company's raising its full-year outlook after sales in china held up de
you wish for both. >> when all of a sudden romney turned around and, anyway. >> that's right. that was because of that. >> yeah. we're going to continue with our what's working series with dan fuss, with the total analyzed return above 10% since the fund launched back in 1991. but first, andrew. andrew, you have the morning headline. >> i do have the morning headlines. let's talk about them. alcoa reporting better than expected earnings in revenue after the close. the...
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and attacks from both sides during last night's vice presidential debate. taxes were a contentious issue during the economic portion of that. take a listen. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> andrea saul is the national press secretary for the romney campaign, joins us from campaign headquarters in boston. andrea, good morning. great to have you. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> let's get the style out of the way. right? because that's what everybody wants to talk about. it's the easiest to relate to. it didn't take long for the rnc to put together an ad compiling all of biden's laughter moments, which people have talked about a lot last night and today. it's been said, if you're going to argue or complain about the style, you lost on the substance. why isn't that true? >> it's not about the style. the reason that vice
and attacks from both sides during last night's vice presidential debate. taxes were a contentious issue during the economic portion of that. take a listen. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> andrea saul is the national press secretary for the romney...
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so in the end, you know, both candidates, the president, mitt romney, well, many people i talk to aren't happy about the degree of detail, but i don't get unhappy about the degree of detail about what, for example, mitt romney needs to go to congress to work out. remember, one guy can't do any of this. it's very disingenuous to think a candidate's going to go on the air during a debate with sound bites for a couple minutes and lay out all the details. but what is important is this tax code, if you modify it, it's like squeezing a water balloon. if you mot fi that earned interest, there will be another way that lawyers and accountants will get together to benefit from this looming policy. the real answer in my opinion for most americans is scrap it. but do poliansn either side of the aisle really have the nerve to scrap it? because if they were really serious, scrapping the tax code, writing something simple, checking every time of subsidy and see if it passes a litmus test, write some set rules for all this legislation, that's the way to go. but politicians are disingenuous. they write s
so in the end, you know, both candidates, the president, mitt romney, well, many people i talk to aren't happy about the degree of detail, but i don't get unhappy about the degree of detail about what, for example, mitt romney needs to go to congress to work out. remember, one guy can't do any of this. it's very disingenuous to think a candidate's going to go on the air during a debate with sound bites for a couple minutes and lay out all the details. but what is important is this tax code, if...
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romney did was go directly after the banks. are you surprised by that? >> five banks actually he went after. >> some of your pals and some people you've worked with. i thought both of you would have views. >> it's absolutely right, it's crazy to declare five banks too big to fail and also correct community and regional banks are suffering and they had nothing to do with the meltdown on wall street. >> his facts are incorrect. it's not five, it's more like 40 and the systemically important institutions has not yet been fully defined yet and may not only include banks. so i think when you say five banks those are the five largest banks but it's not the ohm banks being focused on. ask aig when they pay back if they're focused on by the fed now. so the facts were just wrong that he gave a great show but his facts were wrong. >> you know what my favorite moment in the entire debate was? >> what's that? >> when president obama said for the thousandth time he's going to stop the tax break for shipping jobs overseas. governor romney said i've been in business fo
romney did was go directly after the banks. are you surprised by that? >> five banks actually he went after. >> some of your pals and some people you've worked with. i thought both of you would have views. >> it's absolutely right, it's crazy to declare five banks too big to fail and also correct community and regional banks are suffering and they had nothing to do with the meltdown on wall street. >> his facts are incorrect. it's not five, it's more like 40 and the...
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there was laughing, there was smirking, there was interrupting, there were attacks from both sides, the democrats were looking for a spark from the vice president, while the republicans looked to capitalize on the momentum gain from mitt romney's first presidential debate, taxes were a driving force behind the economic portion of the debate. >> there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending, and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class, the tax bill's coming to you. >> we're arguing that the bush tax cuts for the wealthy should be allowed to expire. of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, $800 billion of that goes to people making a million of $1 million. just let taxes expire like they're supposed to on those millionaires. we can't afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of $1 million. >> see, $800 million billion, i need scientific notation. >> he corrected himself as he was talking. >> no -- did he? didn't that sound bad? if you want to
there was laughing, there was smirking, there was interrupting, there were attacks from both sides, the democrats were looking for a spark from the vice president, while the republicans looked to capitalize on the momentum gain from mitt romney's first presidential debate, taxes were a driving force behind the economic portion of the debate. >> there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending, and so the next time you hear them say don't worry...
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. >> well, let me do both because the swing state poll set up the debate. first of all, what we've seen nationally is that mitt romney's vote is coming up. he's he closing on obama. he has taken a one point lead in the state of virginia. we've got obama up one point in the state of florida. but those are essentially tied races. the real key for romney is going to be making some more head way in the state of ohio where we show obama up six percentage points, but that's down from eight before. and we've seen romney elsewhere making progress in places like colorado, for example, where obama had held the lead, but mitt romney was in striking distance and he still is. now, the significance of tonight's debate is that vice presidential debates can either confirm and accelerate momentum from the previous presidential showing or put a brake on it. joe biden's job is to put a brake on it and paul ryan will have to keep it going. and when you think about match-ups between veteran politicians like biden and younger vice presidential nominees, we've got some pretty goo
. >> well, let me do both because the swing state poll set up the debate. first of all, what we've seen nationally is that mitt romney's vote is coming up. he's he closing on obama. he has taken a one point lead in the state of virginia. we've got obama up one point in the state of florida. but those are essentially tied races. the real key for romney is going to be making some more head way in the state of ohio where we show obama up six percentage points, but that's down from eight...
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. >> they both had the same concept. mitt romney and president obama had the same concept of a managed bankruptcy. >> different concepts. mitt romney didn't want a bunch of government money and taxpayer money going in and guaranteeing these automaker, but when you hear the words let it go bankrupt he wanted it out of business. he said he did not want them and he did not want the taxpayer involved the way they were. we decided this is misleading, the statement. the op ed was titled let detroit go bankrupt by "the new york times," romney wanted a managed bankruptcy overall and ultimately there was a managed bankruptcy. look, there are different views on how to fix the auto industry, but mitt romney did want to fix the auto industry. >> both of the sides had views about a managed bankruptcy, but don't believe the had headline that was attributed to mitt romney. >> it ultimately worked, by the way. >> you can make a fair argument, without question. >> get some sleep tonight. for those of you who missed it and you did get you
. >> they both had the same concept. mitt romney and president obama had the same concept of a managed bankruptcy. >> different concepts. mitt romney didn't want a bunch of government money and taxpayer money going in and guaranteeing these automaker, but when you hear the words let it go bankrupt he wanted it out of business. he said he did not want them and he did not want the taxpayer involved the way they were. we decided this is misleading, the statement. the op ed was titled...
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ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking to voters. so how are the voters receiving all that attention? cnn political editor paul steinhauser joining us now to talk about that. good morning to you what. is the story in ohio? >> reporter: ohio -- it sounds like a broken record. but these candidates keep going back to ohio. the second straight day for mitt romney. the president was just there earlier this week. here's my unofficial count here. since the start of the general election, which was usually considered early april, the president has now made 12 swings through ohio. this is the 16th swing for mitt romney. over $91 million spent by the campaigns. the party committees, the super pacs in ohio. 18 electoral votes at stake in such an important state. this is the state that put president george w. bush over the top in 2004. mitt romney really needs to win it to win the white house this time around. bruce springsteen and the former president bill clinton will be in ohio in a
ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking to voters. so how are the voters receiving all that attention? cnn political editor paul steinhauser joining us now to talk about that. good morning to you what. is the story in ohio? >> reporter: ohio -- it sounds like a broken record. but these candidates keep going back to ohio. the second straight day for mitt romney. the president was just there earlier this week. here's...
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ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking with voters. here's cnn's political editor paul steinhauser. >> good morning, randi. it's all about the buckeye state today. >> we need your help. we've got to win ohio. you've got to get your friends to help us win ohio. >> reporter: that's why mitt romney is spending his second straight day in ohio, where 18 electoral votes are up for grabs. mr. obama won the state four years ago. now ohio is one of the states romney really needs to turn red again in order to make it to the white house. the republican presidential nominee holds two rallies in the state today and his running mate paul ryan also campaigns separately in the buckeye state. president obama was in ohio a few days ago. next week, bruce springsteen will team up with former president clinton to stump for obama in ohio. the race for the state is very close right now. take a look at this cnn poll, a poll that averages three surveys that were conducted entirely after the first p
ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking with voters. here's cnn's political editor paul steinhauser. >> good morning, randi. it's all about the buckeye state today. >> we need your help. we've got to win ohio. you've got to get your friends to help us win ohio. >> reporter: that's why mitt romney is spending his second straight day in ohio, where 18 electoral votes are up for grabs. mr. obama won the...
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gentlemen, thank you both. let me sort of kick this off and answer the first question for you. governor strickland, i assume you believe that president obama will win ohio. back that up for me. >> well, most of the polls over the last several months have shown the president with a consistent -- small but a consistent lead, and that lead seems to have widened within the last 30 days. i believe the president is going to win ohio because he rescued the auto industry, which is so important to our state. he passed the recovery act, which is important to me in terms of keeping police officers and firefighters and teachers and other people, building infrastructure in our state. plus, you know, candy, the president tells the truth, and quite frankly, i don't think mr. romney is a very truthful person when it comes to talking about the economy and what he plans to do. he says, for example, that the ryan budget is a marvelous budget. it doesn't achieve balance for 30 years. it's not a fiscally responsible budget. it voucherizes medicare, and it privatizes social security, and it cuts med
gentlemen, thank you both. let me sort of kick this off and answer the first question for you. governor strickland, i assume you believe that president obama will win ohio. back that up for me. >> well, most of the polls over the last several months have shown the president with a consistent -- small but a consistent lead, and that lead seems to have widened within the last 30 days. i believe the president is going to win ohio because he rescued the auto industry, which is so important to...
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mitt romney has basically been on both sides of almost every single issue that has faced him and his campaign for five years. >> that was a little jab. that was kind of low there, maria. >> i could easily list a number of issues where he has evolved. >> moderating between two women, tougher. two strong women. >> tell you what, don, we're women and we deserve our right to change our mind. >> thank you, guys. i'm moving on. cnn extensive coverage of tonight's debate begins at 7:00 eastern here on cnn. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative about saving on your policy when you get married, move into a new house... [crash!] or add a car to your policy. don't forget to ask about saving up to 10% when you combine your auto and home insurance with liberty mutual. security, coverage, and savings. all the things humans need to make our beautifully
mitt romney has basically been on both sides of almost every single issue that has faced him and his campaign for five years. >> that was a little jab. that was kind of low there, maria. >> i could easily list a number of issues where he has evolved. >> moderating between two women, tougher. two strong women. >> tell you what, don, we're women and we deserve our right to change our mind. >> thank you, guys. i'm moving on. cnn extensive coverage of tonight's debate...
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great. >> both sides will join me here. and in the corner the democrats debby wasserman-schultz. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. flip-flopping again on abortion. frank bruni and my panelists go toe to toe. this is tpiers morgan tonight. >> good evening. 27 days to go until the election look at where we stand tonight. 48% for mitt romney and 47% for president obama. anything could happen on this race which tells you how high the stakes are. joe biden is in delaware tonight deep in debate preparations. paul ryan arriving in kentucky a little while ago. over the last four years we have not had the kind of strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenges. time and again he told us he would take on the things that he needs to. he hasn't and i will. >> in the midst of all of this talk of our debate. listen to what he told diane sawyer on abc. >> if you have a bad game you move on and move forward to the next one. welcome. >> how are you tonight? >> the president looks mean there. he look
great. >> both sides will join me here. and in the corner the democrats debby wasserman-schultz. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. flip-flopping again on abortion. frank bruni and my panelists go toe to toe. this is tpiers morgan tonight. >> good evening. 27 days to go until the election look at where we stand tonight. 48% for mitt romney and 47% for president obama. anything could happen on this race which tells you how high the stakes are. joe biden is...
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mitt romney. start with jobs. he says 12 million jobs will be created in the next four years. i keep telling you that claim is ridiculous considering the sluggish growth we're seeing right now and the new downward revision. but for the purpose of this exercise, i'm going to take him at his word and presume a historic surge in jobs lies ahead. let's talk about taxes. next i'm going to let governor romney explain this for himself. >> well, i've made it pretty clear that my principles are, number one, simplify the code, number two, create incentives for large businesses and small businesses to grow, number 3, don't burden high income taxpayers, and number 4, reduce the burden of tax for middle income people. >> he can do that, we'll have a brand new tax plan. it's bold, but nobody has really done it since reagan. finally, let's look at the deficit. romney is planning to cut more funding than big bird and pbs. his plan is to reduce foreign aid, and one of the biggest cuts, prioritizing amtrak. you may
mitt romney. start with jobs. he says 12 million jobs will be created in the next four years. i keep telling you that claim is ridiculous considering the sluggish growth we're seeing right now and the new downward revision. but for the purpose of this exercise, i'm going to take him at his word and presume a historic surge in jobs lies ahead. let's talk about taxes. next i'm going to let governor romney explain this for himself. >> well, i've made it pretty clear that my principles are,...
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they are both old florida and new florida. >> ten seconds. is it going to hurt mitt romney? >> 80% of the congressional group is republican. connie mack is coming back. he is within five points. bill melson has never gotten to a 50% threshold. there's still a race to get. >> thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> president obama and mitt romney are both making big promises about taxes. can uncle sam afford either candidate's plans? that's next. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt received the j.d. power and associates appeal award two years in a row. ♪ sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's
they are both old florida and new florida. >> ten seconds. is it going to hurt mitt romney? >> 80% of the congressional group is republican. connie mack is coming back. he is within five points. bill melson has never gotten to a 50% threshold. there's still a race to get. >> thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> president obama and mitt romney are both making big promises about taxes. can uncle sam afford either candidate's plans? that's next. i am probably...
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governor romney knowing that said i would sign it. were i there. >> you can see both candidates throwing around a lot of claims about medicare. tom foreman and reality check team. have been checking facts, tom. what do you see? >> medicare is a government health care plan, mainly for people over 65, million people are counting on that. as you heard from both campaigns, each side is saying the other side's future plans are terrible. >> obama care, taks 716 billion to take care of obama care. >> seniors, have you been denied choices, lost an advantage. >> they haven't put a credible idea on the table. >> ideas are old, bad and eliminate the guarantee of medicare. >> essentially what they are saying, my opponent will destroy medicare, can that really be true. let's look at the facts and consider what's in front of us. the white house plan and the landscape they are facing. over the next ten years, the cost of medicare is going to gradually ramp up until it's about a trillion dollars a year. the white house and joe biden would like to int
governor romney knowing that said i would sign it. were i there. >> you can see both candidates throwing around a lot of claims about medicare. tom foreman and reality check team. have been checking facts, tom. what do you see? >> medicare is a government health care plan, mainly for people over 65, million people are counting on that. as you heard from both campaigns, each side is saying the other side's future plans are terrible. >> obama care, taks 716 billion to take care...
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doug and mark, great to see both of you. doug, the romney/ryan plan will reduce rates like 20%. let's forget the lool hope for a moment. see the top rate go down from 35% to 28%. that's certainly not a drop, like jfk did or romney did. can 35 to 28 spark real gdp growth? >> i think we're in a very different world and quite frankly a better world. the feature they have in common, often not appreciated, these are permanent tax reforms, and they have much bigger impacts. it makes sense. a tax cut for a day, you wouldn't do much. and it would change a lot of things, the research supports that notion, an important part of this, a tax reform, permanent change that eliminates the changes. and it reduces complexity. complexity causes people to, a, waste money with tax planning and lawyers and leads to you waste business decisions on the basis of taxes, not business fundamentals and erodes faye faith in the tax system. and the combination of personal nens and getting businesses to focus on the bottom line are very big impetus for growth. >> i understand your point. it's more than just cu
doug and mark, great to see both of you. doug, the romney/ryan plan will reduce rates like 20%. let's forget the lool hope for a moment. see the top rate go down from 35% to 28%. that's certainly not a drop, like jfk did or romney did. can 35 to 28 spark real gdp growth? >> i think we're in a very different world and quite frankly a better world. the feature they have in common, often not appreciated, these are permanent tax reforms, and they have much bigger impacts. it makes sense. a...
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if and when something happens to mitt romney. this is to both of you all. how does he do that? >> well, you know, this is interesting. as the running mate to the challenger, this is probably paul ryan's most important thing tonight to convey mitt romney is the president and something happens to romney, is paul ryan ready to step in in the top job? some campaign officials are confident. why? because peter was talking about. command of the issues. house budget chairman. the command of the issues. they feel it allows himself to portray himself as ready and that's a big test of this. >> the flip side of the age difference, brooke, yes, the biggest of two vice president candidates in over a century, i believe. joe biden's very energetic. out there on the road campaigning and hanging out at dairy queen and comes off younger than he is and paul ryan is a serious man coming across as older and the age difference thing might be a little bit overblown, brooke. >> i was talking to his first real congressional major opponent in 1998 and she pointed out saying to him i could be your mother
if and when something happens to mitt romney. this is to both of you all. how does he do that? >> well, you know, this is interesting. as the running mate to the challenger, this is probably paul ryan's most important thing tonight to convey mitt romney is the president and something happens to romney, is paul ryan ready to step in in the top job? some campaign officials are confident. why? because peter was talking about. command of the issues. house budget chairman. the command of the...
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paul ryan came in, had to defend mitt romney. had to prove he was president. god forbid if he was president. there wasn't a wipeout in this debate. both sides came in, thinking we'll leave prosecute what we have to do. >> let's go to our panelist, joe biden. >> show me a policy where you take responsibility. by the way, the great recession, it fell out of the sky it came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card and put a preskrichgs drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. >> a quick takeaway. >> i think joe biden did do his boss a lot of help tonight. on substance, i think it was a draw. each side will draw a lot of encouragement from it. on style, i think paul ryan won the debate. and that is, the biden, the dismissive laughs, shouting, interruptions, ryan was calmer and more presidential on style, not substance. on substance, i thought it was a draw. >> it was condescending to paul ryan and i could have done with a lot less eye rolling and chuckling on the part of joe biden. however, i thought it was a gr
paul ryan came in, had to defend mitt romney. had to prove he was president. god forbid if he was president. there wasn't a wipeout in this debate. both sides came in, thinking we'll leave prosecute what we have to do. >> let's go to our panelist, joe biden. >> show me a policy where you take responsibility. by the way, the great recession, it fell out of the sky it came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card and put a preskrichgs drug benefit on the credit card, a...
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we're talking to presidential debate adviser bret o'donnell who has worked with both mitt romney and john mccain. >>> smackdown, wwe superstar slaps a fan. is this work? is it real? we'll show you and you make the call. >>> plus passing johnny june nye tis and passing his way into the history books. saints quarterback drew brees is here live to talk about making nfl history last week and how he's trying to get kids to run a few playtion and tackle childhood obesity. i like this guy. >> man, are we looking forward to that. first, democrats, republicans and then there's the pizza party. a pizza chain dares voters to ask one question during next week's presidential debate. they'll put up one big prize. stay tuned. lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ can't tell them apart, try as you might ♪ ♪ but a wise man once said that the secret to life ♪ ♪ is to find one that don't look the same ♪ ♪ find one that don't look ♪ the same ♪ ♪ the same you see us
we're talking to presidential debate adviser bret o'donnell who has worked with both mitt romney and john mccain. >>> smackdown, wwe superstar slaps a fan. is this work? is it real? we'll show you and you make the call. >>> plus passing johnny june nye tis and passing his way into the history books. saints quarterback drew brees is here live to talk about making nfl history last week and how he's trying to get kids to run a few playtion and tackle childhood obesity. i like...
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they are both old florida and new florida. >> ten seconds. is it going to hurt mitt romney? >> two-thirds of state legislature is republican, 80% of the congressional group is republican. connie mack is coming back. he is within five points. bill nelson has never gotten to a 50% threshold. there's still a race to get. >> thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> president obama and mitt romney are both making big promises about taxes. can uncle sam afford either candidate's plans? that's next. i was skeptical at first. but after awhile even my girlfriend noticed a difference. [ male announcer ] rogaine is proven to help stop hair loss. and for 85% of guys, it regrew hair. save up to 42% now at rogaine.com. begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier to get what you n
they are both old florida and new florida. >> ten seconds. is it going to hurt mitt romney? >> two-thirds of state legislature is republican, 80% of the congressional group is republican. connie mack is coming back. he is within five points. bill nelson has never gotten to a 50% threshold. there's still a race to get. >> thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> president obama and mitt romney are both making big promises about taxes. can uncle sam afford either...
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. >> in fairness, both obama in romney are talking about alternative ways of doing this. eliminating the deductions that an individual can take. >> romney told me $25,000 -- >> and the president has proposed to reduce the rate at which you can item yieds it. >> but romney started out at 17,000 and then to you he start of raised the cap a little bit. >> and chuck shumer threw a ball into this. we have a trillion deficit. why are we reducing tax rates at all. let's use it to our deficit reduction rather than lowering rates at the top. >> you know this as i did. when biden kept talking about raising taxes for people making a million or more as opposed to $250,000. >> that's a chuck schumer idea as well coming from new york. >> but all this should tell us is that before people go to the voting boothss, they're not going to know the answers to these questions. everyone would like to know the answers to these questions, but you have professional groups disagreeing about the economic impact of these things. so we don't really know. >> we have more clarity on the spending side wh
. >> in fairness, both obama in romney are talking about alternative ways of doing this. eliminating the deductions that an individual can take. >> romney told me $25,000 -- >> and the president has proposed to reduce the rate at which you can item yieds it. >> but romney started out at 17,000 and then to you he start of raised the cap a little bit. >> and chuck shumer threw a ball into this. we have a trillion deficit. why are we reducing tax rates at all. let's...
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it was a bit of both. it was a lot of both. president obama was way off, and mitt romney was very much on his game. you know, i don't remember many debates where it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow, and yet there was a very visible mark that was an undebatable victor of the debate, and it was mitt romney. he did it because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp piece of spaghetti. >> yeah, it was like the chair. this is honest talk. let's talk about the job numbers. it could have come at a better time, and how big of a help is this below 8% jobless rate, do you think? i want to see what the republicans think about that? mitt romney can't say the unemployment rate is above 8%? >> absolutely it was a help, and on friday, just after the debate, and let me tell you, don, i am a republican, but when it comes to unemployment numbers i am an american first, i am not on the red or blue team, and i want our economy to strengthen and i want us to recover as a country and the smartest
it was a bit of both. it was a lot of both. president obama was way off, and mitt romney was very much on his game. you know, i don't remember many debates where it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow, and yet there was a very visible mark that was an undebatable victor of the debate, and it was mitt romney. he did it because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp piece of spaghetti. >> yeah, it was like the chair. this is honest talk....
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to you both. before we go anywhere, i want to play this attack regarding the comments on abortion. >> this is another example of governor romney hiding positions he has been campaigning on for a year and a half. >> is it a lie? >> i mean, governor romney has made it very clear that if a bill comes to his desk that overturns roe versus wade, he will sign it. and he has said he will overturn roe versus wade. and now four weeks before the election, he is trying to cloud the question. >> he has performed more flip-flops on abortion than almost any politician ever. >> i don't think this is a flip-flop, you can be pro life, but also say we have to turn this economy around first. mitt romney has been running on this five-point plan to save the economy, and it has things like we're going to fix trade -- >> yes, yes, yes, but hang on, yes, but the reason that he is the nominee, is because he battled in the nominee race, i remember, i was covering it at the time. day after day, and one of the main stronger
to you both. before we go anywhere, i want to play this attack regarding the comments on abortion. >> this is another example of governor romney hiding positions he has been campaigning on for a year and a half. >> is it a lie? >> i mean, governor romney has made it very clear that if a bill comes to his desk that overturns roe versus wade, he will sign it. and he has said he will overturn roe versus wade. and now four weeks before the election, he is trying to cloud the...
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>> i think maybe there's some bit of both. i have no idea. as you know, there are a lot of people on twitter, some people there do not say the nicest things to people, particularly people in the public eye. that happens a lot. can i get into the mind of people who do that sort of thing, i absolutely cannot. is it in general, do people think that more of hollywood is liberal than conservative? i think that people generally think that's true. >> rick, what do you make of this? it seems a particularly poisonous reaction. she seems a perfectly nice young lady to me. she's perfectly entitled for who the hell she likes. you guys are the beneficiary here of her vote. i'm sure mitt romney is very happy about that. but it came in a week when there was an 18 point swing back to mitt romney amongst women. hardly surprising that a woman, despite the fact she's a black actress, has decided that she prefers mitt romney now. lots of women are making that decision. so why the fury? >> i think there are lots of blacks supporting romney. there are lots of gays
>> i think maybe there's some bit of both. i have no idea. as you know, there are a lot of people on twitter, some people there do not say the nicest things to people, particularly people in the public eye. that happens a lot. can i get into the mind of people who do that sort of thing, i absolutely cannot. is it in general, do people think that more of hollywood is liberal than conservative? i think that people generally think that's true. >> rick, what do you make of this? it...
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. >> both energetic defenders of their parties, policies and parties at the top of the ticket. >> barack and i will not let you down! >> we need to elect this man, mitt romney, the next president of the united states. >> tonight, joe biden and paul ryan in their only vice presidential face off. >> we are going to give you a clear choice. >> he has a fundamentally different view. >> the vice president setting his sights on the romney ryan economic plan. >> we've seen this movie before. it ended in a catastrophe. >> the the congressman taking aim at the obama-biden white house record. >> you can turn on the tv and you can look at how the obama foreign policy is blowing up in our faces. >> the candidates know the debate stakes are higher after ryan's boss scored and biden's boss stumbled. now, c nnn's coverage. >> we will take responsibility and own up and get things dope. >> america's coming back! we're not going back! we're going forward! >> the nation is watching. voters want answers and america's future is up for debate. >>> this is danville, kentucky. the sight of tonight's debate. joe
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both candidates were asked about their stance on abortion. they gave very different answers, as you might imagine. well, we know that romney's position has long been that abortion should be legal in cases of incest and rape. well, ryan's past position on this become an issue at all? >> reporter: you know, certainly democrats try to, particularly when the whole controversy with todd akin, a republican is not candidate exploded because ryan in congress had signed on to very, very strong anti-abortion language, legislation, but when it came to the abortion question last night, i think what you were going to play was the fact that ryan really towed the romney line saying that the romney/ryan tickets believes that abortion should be illegal except in cases of rape and incest and the health of the mother. i think we have the sound bite, if we want to listen. >> i understand this is a difficult issue, and i respect people who don't agree with me hon this, but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion with the exceptions for ra
both candidates were asked about their stance on abortion. they gave very different answers, as you might imagine. well, we know that romney's position has long been that abortion should be legal in cases of incest and rape. well, ryan's past position on this become an issue at all? >> reporter: you know, certainly democrats try to, particularly when the whole controversy with todd akin, a republican is not candidate exploded because ryan in congress had signed on to very, very strong...
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both spending so much time in the state of ohio. >> all right. dan lothian traveling with the president there on the west coast. sthoonks much. republican mitt romney is spending the weekend in florida where he's talking to crowds and trying to win their support. he spent yesterday preparing for the next debate. it's a must-win state if he wants to capture the white house, and today romney again wednesday on the offense against president obama on health care. >> if he is re-elected, he will install obama care. with it your xwrpremiums will gp an extra $2,500 above what they already are according to the congressional budget office. my plan is that i will finally get control of the excessive costs in health care by repealing and replacing obama care with real reforms. >> romney and obama will debate again just nine days from now, october 16th. you can watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn this week. joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium liv
both spending so much time in the state of ohio. >> all right. dan lothian traveling with the president there on the west coast. sthoonks much. republican mitt romney is spending the weekend in florida where he's talking to crowds and trying to win their support. he spent yesterday preparing for the next debate. it's a must-win state if he wants to capture the white house, and today romney again wednesday on the offense against president obama on health care. >> if he is re-elected,...
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. >> both men talked about taxes in particular, they were pressed on taxes in particular during that first debate and we lost saw that during the romney debate, as far as the romney debate, the republicans in particular were pressed on this very issue. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. no economist will say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with this tax plan. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. start with the wealthy, work with congress to do it. >> you guarantee this math? >> let's talk about the pressure that's on romney to try to give more specifics about how do you do that? what about that math? >> well, you know, there are a lot of numbers flying around, but the question really is very specific and easy to grasp. sit mathematically possible to do the three things that romney says he's going do on his tax plan? not raise the deficit and not reduce the share of taxes paid by the wealthy. the tax policy center which is an independent nonpartisan group has looked at the number and said those three things cannot be do
. >> both men talked about taxes in particular, they were pressed on taxes in particular during that first debate and we lost saw that during the romney debate, as far as the romney debate, the republicans in particular were pressed on this very issue. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. no economist will say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with this tax plan. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. start with the...
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this is about governor romney and president obama and i think they're both going to be focused on that. >> interesting point, i think. a lot people think that the v.p. debate is not all that important in these discussions. nice to see you, sir. thanks for talking with us. >> soledad, thank you very much. but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. to investing with knowledge. the potential of td ameritrade unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. to a world of super-connected intelligence. the potential of freescale unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup
this is about governor romney and president obama and i think they're both going to be focused on that. >> interesting point, i think. a lot people think that the v.p. debate is not all that important in these discussions. nice to see you, sir. thanks for talking with us. >> soledad, thank you very much. but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize...
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both of the vermontal candidates are back in their home states today. paul ryan is in wisconsin and president biden is in delaware. at a fund-raiser yesterday biden talked about the difference between the candidates and he offered this. quote, every presidential race every race comes down twho they thing has character and conviction. it will not surprise you on that score. i don't even think it's close between president obama and governor romney. >> let joe be joe is what president obama said before the debate and that's skpanlly what "saturday night live" had fun with last night. >> mr. biden, i know you're under a lot of duress but it would do everything good if you -- >> you don't scare me, shark eyes. you think you're tougher than me because you do the px 90 workout? let me tell you. there's jim strong and old manner. you want to know a workout. when when the amtrak breaks down, i strip down to my tighty-whities and push that [ bleep ] all the way to washington. >>> the vice-presidential debate is history, setting the stage for the second debate bet
both of the vermontal candidates are back in their home states today. paul ryan is in wisconsin and president biden is in delaware. at a fund-raiser yesterday biden talked about the difference between the candidates and he offered this. quote, every presidential race every race comes down twho they thing has character and conviction. it will not surprise you on that score. i don't even think it's close between president obama and governor romney. >> let joe be joe is what president obama...
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/china relationship is how both sides are ma nushing each other, positioning each other to avoid any kind of condition and that is good. >> were you surprised romney dropped what had been a staple of his peaches which was kind of a china bashing paragraph? >> i was relieved. i think the worth part of the romney campaign is the ceaseless and i think very feckless and ultimately dangerous china bashing. we want china as a rising economic power and as a responsible political player and i hope that this is an indication that romney at some level beyond the purely political and beyond the politics in ohio understands this. >> on that note, brett stephens, danielle, victory, bill, pleasure to have you all on. up next, what in the world. the case for a new public policy in america. aisle explain. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-25
/china relationship is how both sides are ma nushing each other, positioning each other to avoid any kind of condition and that is good. >> were you surprised romney dropped what had been a staple of his peaches which was kind of a china bashing paragraph? >> i was relieved. i think the worth part of the romney campaign is the ceaseless and i think very feckless and ultimately dangerous china bashing. we want china as a rising economic power and as a responsible political player and...
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romney. start with jobs. he says 12 million jobs will be created in the next four years. as i keep telling you, that claim it ridiculous, considering the sluggish growth we're seeing right now and the new downward revision. but for the purposes of this exercise, i'll take him at his word and presume an historic surge in jobs lies ahead. let's talk about taxes next. i'm going to let governor romney explain this for himself. >> well, i've made it pretty clear that my principles are number one, simplify the code, number two, create incentives for small businesses and large businesses to grow. number three, don't reduce the burden on high-income taxpayers. and number four, remove the burden somewhat from middle income people. >> now, you can get all that done in four years we'll have a bran new tax code by 2016. again, it's bold. everybody talks about doing it but nobody's done it really since reagan. finally let's take a look at the deficit. romney is planning to cut a lot more than funding to b
romney. start with jobs. he says 12 million jobs will be created in the next four years. as i keep telling you, that claim it ridiculous, considering the sluggish growth we're seeing right now and the new downward revision. but for the purposes of this exercise, i'll take him at his word and presume an historic surge in jobs lies ahead. let's talk about taxes next. i'm going to let governor romney explain this for himself. >> well, i've made it pretty clear that my principles are number...
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it will be interesting to see what they do over the next several days with both the vice presidential debate coming up and the second presidential debate coming up. one of the thing that is the romney campaign has miscalculated is their definition of presidential -- they have seen this as aggressive and showing strong and might where presidential also means having temperance. having poise and having patience. that's what you saw previously not being applied with the benghazi situation before. let's see if they do it now because this is one of the first times last wednesday that governor romney looked presidential at a time where president obama did not. now, with these issues and the new details coming out, it looks even worse for the administration. and if governor romney and his campaign can take a step back and look presidential in a more holistic way, not only show the strengths in some of the tough talk they have been doing, but show poise and temperature rans with their approach as the details come out, i think it can play well for them and can go very well for them going into t
it will be interesting to see what they do over the next several days with both the vice presidential debate coming up and the second presidential debate coming up. one of the thing that is the romney campaign has miscalculated is their definition of presidential -- they have seen this as aggressive and showing strong and might where presidential also means having temperance. having poise and having patience. that's what you saw previously not being applied with the benghazi situation before....
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it ways bit of both. it was a lot of both. president obama was way off. and mitt romney was very much on his game. i don't remember where debate where's it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow. and yet, there was a very visible mark of -- you know, undebatable victor of this debate, which was mitt romney. he did it just because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp piece of spaghetti. >> it was like the chair from clint eastwood. i want to go a little longer with this segment. i want to talk with more of these guys. this is some honest talk. let's talk about job numbers. it could have come from the president. how big of a help to him is this below 8% jobless rate, do you think? i'm going to start with anna to see what the republicans think about that. how big of a help? mitt romney can no longer go, well, the unemployment rate is above 8%. >> absolutely, it was a help. and it was a salvo for president obama on friday, the day just after this disastrous debate. and let me tell you, don. i am a republican.
it ways bit of both. it was a lot of both. president obama was way off. and mitt romney was very much on his game. i don't remember where debate where's it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow. and yet, there was a very visible mark of -- you know, undebatable victor of this debate, which was mitt romney. he did it just because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp piece of spaghetti. >> it was like the chair from clint eastwood. i want...